Basic Troubleshooting for Paramount In-floor Cleaning Systems
IMPORTANT- ALWAYS HAVE THE ORIGINAL PARAMOUNT LAYOUT WITH YOU BEFORE TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOTING A POOL
PCC2000 – POOL VALET – PV3-Cyclean
SINGLE PUMP SYSTEM (Very Rare with PCC2000)
Heads not cleaning all over pool.
Main drain is not open to 60 % or more. In floor systems only clean thru the main drain, not the skimmer. The skimmer should be set to just allow the water to go over the weir.
If water valve has a gauge, pressure should be 18 PSI or over, and filter pressure should be no less than 24 PSI and not over 32 PSI.
- A. If the pressures are not right on the water valve or filter, clean the filter and recheck the pressures.
- B. If two or three valves are on the system the second valve should be 15# or higher
When on, and should be at 0 PSI when off. The second valve should come on every 3 to 6 minutes and run for 3 to 6 minutes at which time both valves will have pressure on them. If the pressures are not right the slave valve is probably bad. ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THE MODULE WAS POSITIONED IN THE VALVE BASE BEFORE TAKING IT OUT. TRY CLEANING THE MODULE BEFORE REPLACING. If a customer has removed the module with out marking how it go back in they can remove the other valve and put water in the center port to see which holes it comes out of in the base. These three holes will be the ones that the tubes on the special module go over.
- C. Other possible problems with low pressure on the valve gauge.
- a. Pump impeller plugged.
- b. Pump basket full.
- c. Air leak at pump lid O-ring or some other place on the suction side of the pump.
- d. Return or spa valve open.
PCC – POOL VALET – PV3-Cyclean
BOOSTER PUMP SYSTEM
Same as above except cleaning filter will not affect the pressure on the water valve.
ONE OR TWO CIRCUITS ONLY OR ONE OR TWO HEADS, ARE NOT CLEANING BUT THE REST OF THE POOL IS CLEAN.
Check nozzles for being plugged or not rotating properly.
- A. When checking for plugged nozzles run the pump after the nozzle has been removed to make sure that the line is not dirty.
DO NOT REMOVE MORE THAN ONE NOZZLE AT A TIME. Each nozzle may be different.
IF NOZZLES ARE NOT PLUGGED AND LINE IS CLEAN CHECK ORIFICE SIZES PER THE PARAMOUNT PLAN.
Pool Valet: 60 GPM per circuit
Each 3/8″ hole is 10 GPM.
PV-3/Cyclean: 60 GPM per circuit.
5/8″ = 20 GPM
3/8″ = 10 GPM
¼” = 5 GPM
PCC: 50 GPM per circuit.
¾” = 50 GPM
½” = 25 GPM
3/8″ = 10 GPM
¼” = 6 GPM
SPECIAL THINGS TO LOOK AT ON PCC SYSTEMS
Fixed nozzles placement and pressure
Down jet placement and angle-
1 When installing or checking a PCC nozzle, always double check the nozzle for the right side and correct nozzle size being open and used.
- When you find a plugged nozzle, or line, always clean out the nozzle and also turn on the pump on that port to make sure the line is free of debris.
- All lines of the PCC system should equal 50 gpm. ¾” nozzle = 50 gpm. ½” nozzle = 25 gpm. 3/8″ nozzle = 12gpm.
- If your having problems with the pool not cleaning check for at least 60-70% open on the main drain and try brushing dirt and debris towards the main drain, if it seems to blow away from the main drain instead of going into it, reduce the fixed nozzle size. This is of course after you have determined that they were facing the proper direction.
ADVANCED TROUBLE SHOOTING PARAMOUNT INFLOOR CLEANING SYSTEMS
- 1. If not working always try to wash off the module to clean off dirt and check for turning by rotating the inside gear.
- 2. If a piston is in the open position this does not always mean that the module is bad. As the diaphragms get old they get weak and some times do not close with out being under pressure in the system.
- 3. The gear that touches the out side gear ring is at the point where the cam that opens the piston is. This is how you can tell which port is the problem.
- 4. A high pressure on one port is an indication of either a plugged nozzle or the wrong nozzle sizing.
- 5. A low pressure on one port is an indication of the wrong nozzle sizing.
- 6. A low pressure on more than one port could be a bad piston on a module, a plugged pump impeller, an air leak on the suction side of the pump, or on a single pump system a dirty filter-no by pass on heater-or some blockage or diversion of water before the water valve.
- 7. Firing order for valve configurations: all valves rotate clockwise
–Six port: Runs each of the zones in sequential order, firing each zone individually for 30-45 seconds (at 18-22 psi.), then raising the next zone running both zones for 5-10 seconds(at 6-10 psi), then closing the previous zone to run the next zone individually for 30-45 seconds, and so on…
–Nine port: This runs the first three zones of the pool on the 4 port control valve (look for the connector tubes on the top of the valve module which tie the three zones together which send water to the adjoining valve), during which only this valve has pressure, then sends water for three cycles to the adjoined six port valve (during which both valves will show pressure, the control valve will be 1-3 psi higher), then again back to the control valve for zones 1 thru 3 again. The firing order will something like: 1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,7,8,9…
–Twelve port: On this system, the control valve is a two port valve containing a special 5 gear module which runs at approximately 1/3 the speed of our standard 4 gear module (keep in mind that the 4 gear modules have five gears on them, but one is not functioning and is offset). Look for two sets of “jumper tubes” on the top of the module, going outside of the gear plate assembly. This control valve sends water to each of the two six port modules adjoined to it for approximately 10-12 minutes, running those 6 zones for up to 3 cycles or more, then transferring to the other six port valve to do the same.
MDX/Main Drain Performance
In order for Paramount cleaning systems to fully clean the pool, it is imperative that the main drain system in the pool be operating properly. Make sure of the following:
- 50% or more of the filter pump suction is dedicated to the MDX/Main drain. This can be accomplished by reducing suction to the skimmers.
- Confirm that the drain line is clear and that water is moving freely through the drain and the drain line.
- If a debris canister is present on the deck (ADR), make sure the bag/basket inside of it is clean, and that the balance/equalizer line from the ADR to the pool is functioning properly and water is being maintained above the internal clear lid at the same level as the pool. A full canister bag means the drain cannot draw enough water which can lead to a clogged drain. Consumers should always check and clean the canister bag anytime they clean their skimmers.
- If the drain is clogged, you may either have to remove the cover and clear out the drain, or you may be able to clear the debris by isolating the drain line at the filter pump and blocking the secondary suction in the pool using a garbage bag or equivalent.